31: Primal Body, Primal Mind — Nora Gedgaudas

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0:31today to have a wonderful guest Nora it
0:34god she’s a widely recognized expert
0:36always popularly referred to as the
0:38Paleo diet
0:40she’s the author of the international
0:41best-selling book primal body pro mind
0:44beyond the Paleo diet for total health
0:46and a longer life she’s also the author
0:48of the best-selling book rethinking
0:50fatigue what your adrenals are really
0:53telling you and what you can do about it
0:55nor is an experienced nutritional
0:57consultant speaker and educator widely
0:59interviewed on national international
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1:03television and film noir welcome to the
1:06show again thanks for having me
1:09we’re really excited to be happy here so
1:11tell talk to us on or what is the primal
1:13body
1:14yeah well you know it it’s basically
1:18based on on the idea that that you know
1:22we were confronted as an evolving
1:24species with a lot of selective
1:27pressures along the way you know couple
1:29million years ago that that would
1:33basically shaped our uh you know our
1:37dietary tendencies and those dietary
1:41tendencies in turn would have shaped our
1:43physiological makeup and and our
1:45fundamental nutritional requirements so
1:47yeah and those are changed i mean i
1:50guess with the the modern sort of
1:52society that we’re living in I assume
1:53were we’re not really living the same
1:55way that we used to not eating or not
1:57you’re not but genetically we are all
1:59still the same as we were at least 40
2:02200,000 you know years ago were
2:03fundamentally still regardless of our
2:06ideologies regardless of our of our
2:09ethnic heritage or anything else we are
2:11all at base fundamentally under gather
2:13of people and for a good very good
2:16portion of our evolutionary history
2:18we’ve been most mostly hunters and we’ll
2:21get world where I guess we’re hunting
2:23now we’re going to the supermarket and
2:24we can hunt for that ice cream or
2:27something like that but but not the same
2:29way as we used to be
2:30well right so the the marketing forces
2:33that be have taken advantage of a lot of
2:35the psychological factors i think that
2:37that constitute you know our makeup for
2:41instance we live we are psychologically
2:43in as feel kind of in a feast or famine
2:46mentality that our ancestors in any wild
2:48being would be you know we in other
2:51words ich while the eating’s good
2:52because tomorrow there may not be enough
2:55and yet you know today we have this
2:57unnatural access to this unnatural
2:59abundance of food and food like
3:01substances and you know where where we
3:06don’t have that you know that the kind
3:07of off switch that we need to have been
3:09particularly since the majority of the
3:12foods that are available to us in the
3:14particular in the center aisles of the
3:16grocery store our carbohydrate-based
3:18which is kind of a first for us to have
3:21a carbohydrate based diet throughout you
3:24know our entire evolutionary history
3:26until about about 10,000 years ago when
3:29we adopted this thing called agriculture
3:31and things started changing so that our
3:33health at that time now you know i’ve
3:36been i’ve been working out I’ve been
3:37listening to like a lot of the
3:39bodybuilders saying that you need a
3:40certain level of carbohydrates in your
3:42book you say actually and maybe i miss
3:44coordinates but you don’t actually need
3:45any sugar or any carbohydrates at all in
3:49your diet my saying that writer
3:50yeah I mean well so of the three major
3:53macronutrients proteins fats and
3:56carbohydrates right the the only one for
3:59which there is no established human
4:01dietary requirements I mean not in any
4:03medical textbooks that in textbook of
4:05physiology is carbohydrates wow no
4:07carbohydrates that supply us with
4:09glucose you know I’m sober I’m not well
4:11I mean it’s true of all carbohydrates
4:13but the carbohydrates that particularly
4:15supplies with the glucose sugary starchy
4:17foods you know our little more than what
4:19amount to metabolic kindling for us
4:21right
4:22your brown rice your being here
4:24or whole-grain you know breads and sweet
4:27potatoes and things are kind of like
4:29like twigs on our metabolic fire and
4:32then your white rice white potatoes
4:33bread pasta you know that kind of a
4:36thing they’re right there are a lot more
4:37like crumpled up paper on our metabolic
4:39fire sweetened beverages and and you
4:42know beer and he felt its we out
4:44alcoholic beverages and things like that
4:46are pretty much like going lighter fluid
4:48on our metabolic fires and if all you
4:51have is kindling to run your sort of
4:53metabolic woodstove within on for
4:55Minnesota woodstove analogies work for
4:56me you know up you know you could do it
5:01in ninety-nine point about 5% probably
5:04of our population right now is doing it
5:06just that way but the problem is what
5:08are you actually doing you’re sitting in
5:10front of that metabolic would stop with
5:11the doors open and you’re constantly
5:13preoccupied with where that next handful
5:15of fuel is going to come from the key
5:17those fires going and and it’s AII think
5:21of it as a form of metabolic enslavement
5:23nature would not have been so stupid as
5:25to design this that way being forced to
5:27eat every two hours or whatever to keep
5:30the fires going
5:31you know this is this is a model that
5:33serves the interest certainly of the
5:36food industry of big agribusiness of you
5:38know the US Department of Agriculture’s
5:40food pyramid no conflict of interest
5:42there right but it is not how human
5:44beings were designed well what’s our
5:46alternative what if you’re about what if
5:48you are to take a nice big fat log and
5:51throw that on the fire instead write all
5:53of a sudden you’re kind of free you get
5:55to go off and do your thing and you can
5:57sleep through the night and yes there is
5:59an analogy to be made there and then you
6:00wake up in the morning and all of the
6:02fires burning down i’ll throw another
6:03log on the fire your basic you talking
6:06about actually freedom baby on food
6:08freedom based on operating from a
6:11fat-burning metabolism which is I
6:13believe that match I and there’s ample
6:15evidence to support that is operating
6:19from a fat based metabolism as opposed
6:22to sugar-based metabolism were told that
6:24we have to rely on glucose as a primary
6:26source of fuel and and it’s a very very
6:29misleading statement that you know it’s
6:32only true it’s only conditionally true
6:34it’s only true if we have metabolically
6:36adapt ourselves to a rather on
6:38natural dependence on glucose as a
6:40primary source if you feel I mean what
6:42you’re talking about is really a diet
6:44that probably most Americans are
6:46actually looking i just i saw a staff
6:49member
6:49II sort of doritos sandwich it was
6:52literally the readership is where and I
6:55was like what like there’s no hope for
6:57the future and all the fact that can’t
7:00be good for you you know
7:02ya know and you know the thing is is
7:04that it’s not just about you know carbs
7:07obviously the food industry has figured
7:08out how to tap into psychologist captain
7:10tap into the brain into our biochemistry
7:13to trigger centers in the brain
7:14addictive centers in the brain mean
7:17sugars for instance triggers opiate
7:19centers in the brain these pleasure
7:20centers and some people can kind of take
7:23or leave sugar but just like some people
7:25can take early heroin but for others
7:27it’s like the kids of God you know right
7:30and uh and they don’t know how to stop
7:32they they just simply you know create
7:35this stuff like mad to the other
7:36interesting thing is that the the foods
7:38of agriculture and the grains and dairy
7:41products they contain opiate like
7:43substances grains contain in a gluteal
7:46Morrison protein or seng there’s k some
7:49orphan in in dairy products and these
7:51also trigger powerful opiate centers in
7:54the brain that some people just don’t
7:56know how to to manage in any way other
7:59than simply becoming addicted to these
8:02foods and I think in some ways that is
8:04why we adopted agricultural such a
8:06full-scale as we did I believe we became
8:09addicted to these substances we were you
8:12know at the end of the last night we
8:14forget that for from about 2.6 million
8:17years ago at the beginning of what we
8:18call the quaternary ice age to about
8:2110,000 years ago at the end of the last
8:23period of glacial advance that occurred
8:26rather abruptly i might add
8:28we’re still in the quaternary ice age by
8:30the way but where you know where we’re
8:32not in that period of glacial advanced
8:33um we coexisted with these enormous
8:37Pleistocene megafauna you know some of
8:40these excess of 10,000 kilograms and and
8:43you know if we extrapolate say we know
8:45one of the probably the most popular
8:47member of that of that genre which is
8:49the Willie mammoth in
8:51from from from the body composition of
8:53elephants for instance right that they
8:55they had over fifty percent body fat and
8:57you know where and where not even
8:59counting on roughly four inches or more
9:01of subcutaneous fat underneath their
9:03eyes that and in addition to you know
9:06the brain and the bone marrow and and
9:08the tongue and all of these you know
9:10fati organs that we would have we
9:13absolutely would have consumed all the
9:15everything and we would have consumed
9:17all of that and it was our taste for fat
9:20and the fat of these animals the are
9:22preferential hunting for these animals
9:24throughout our entire history
9:26alright that that is really responsible
9:28for the development and the in the
9:31unprecedented Lee rapid in civilization
9:34of the human brain are most unique
9:36characteristic so I mean I’m basically
9:38here to say you know i have a new book
9:40called primal fat burner basically and
9:44it sounds like a weight-loss book but
9:47actually it’s it’s it’s really a double
9:49entendre you know it you know it’s a i’m
9:52happy to say that you know the weight
9:54loss part will probably be a favorite
9:55side effect that people experience when
9:57they adopted or feeding you know they
9:58need to lose weight that is but but the
10:00true definition of being a primal fat
10:02burner is successfully adopting a
10:04fat-burning metabolism in other words
10:05relying on free fatty acids and
10:07something called ketones for fuel
10:09instead of sugar burning metabolism
10:10that’s wholly reliant on glucose which
10:13is of course the unfortunate and rather
10:14a natural Norman our society so the log
10:18burning is basically what you’re talking
10:20about with writing the fact and the the
10:24very quick light like a match being lit
10:26is really the glucose oh right now as a
10:29society where or addicted to this kind
10:31of a glucose fast-food rush kind of
10:34thing and you think we’ve got to get
10:36back to that that primal kind of writing
10:39patties and its really nothing so here’s
10:41the thing to understand that that’s at
10:43to our ancient human physiological
10:44makeup literally means survival right
10:47and survival Trump’s literally
10:48everything else and and there’s a
10:50hormone called leptin that’s been much
10:53more recently discovered it was actually
10:55discovered being secreted from are very
10:57fat cells are your body’s animal tissue
10:59your fat tissues actually a
11:01sophisticated endocrine organ
11:03and it’s literally our most important
11:05hormone it orchestrates the activity of
11:08all other hormones in the body and left
11:10him is fundamentally effect sensor and I
11:13talked about this a lot more in both my
11:15books primal body prime aligned and
11:17primal fat burner which was just
11:19released by simon & schuster in January
11:2124th but once again I is ice age beings
11:25we were basically designed to whether or
11:27not just the cold but extremes of
11:29climate in other words while North
11:32America extreme North America and stream
11:35southern South America was was you know
11:38basically covered in thousands of feet
11:40of ice and snow and all of that africa
11:43was being ripped apart by drought and
11:44wildfires so I mean we were designed to
11:48you know deal with extreme cold extreme
11:50heat droughts wildfires floods huge
11:52storms and the effects of widespread
11:54volcanic activity occurring during these
11:56time periods and his pattern sometimes
11:58lasting thousands of years we became
12:00human in essence by surviving disaster
12:03well there would have been time periods
12:04in places to wear plant life
12:06particularly edible plant life would
12:08have been pretty scarce and practical as
12:10a meaningful source of calories its
12:12nutrient density that would have been
12:14absolutely paramount and highly coveted
12:16importance and there’s nothing more
12:18nutrient calorie-dense then then made us
12:20and especially fat i’m not saying that
12:23we all need to be eating slabs and slabs
12:25of meat and seafood swimming in fact but
12:28your body is constantly looking lesson
12:31is looking for that signal that says
12:33hunting is good and hunting in one of
12:36that is sufficient
12:38well when fat is insufficient your begun
12:40body becomes much better at synthesizing
12:43it from other things namely
12:44carbohydrates in your diet and and
12:46causing your body to become stingy about
12:48letting it go when there’s enough that I
12:51there’s so much should be city in the
12:52way in the world to its it’s one of many
12:55reasons why and it is sort of
12:57interesting because it was a reason
12:59expose in the New York Times that that
13:02basically of that the that
13:11to that show that it was in fact the
13:14sugar industry in a rather an industry
13:16group called the sugar Association
13:17quote-unquote that secretly funded the
13:20so-called science designed to adjust we
13:23blame dietary fat for the growing crisis
13:25of ill health and obesity was apparently
13:27been going on since the early sixties so
13:30I and I have some point I have a quote
13:32here according to a CBS news report on
13:34the Discovery they said that and I quote
13:37one studies began emerging linking sugar
13:40with heart disease according to
13:41documents that were dug up from public
13:43archives the following year the sugar
13:45industry approved what they called
13:47Project 226 which entailed paying
13:49Harvard researchers today’s equivalent
13:51forty-eight thousand nine hundred
13:53dollars for an article reviewing the
13:55scientific literature supplying
13:57materials they wanted reviewed and read
13:59receiving draft of the article the
14:01resulting article published in 1967
14:03concluded that there was quote no doubt
14:05that reducing cholesterol and saturated
14:07that was the only dietary intervention
14:09needed to prevent heart disease and the
14:12researchers overstated the consistency
14:14of the literature on fat and cholesterol
14:15while downplaying studies on sugar
14:18according to the analysis the sugar
14:20industries funding and roll were not
14:22disclosed when the article was published
14:23by the New England Journal of Medicine
14:24such disclosures were not required at
14:27the time for decades afterwards
14:29scientists and health officials focused
14:30almost entirely upon reducing fat and
14:33not sugar to prevent heart disease and a
14:35guy by the name of Stanton Glantz and
14:38professor of medicine at the University
14:40of California in San Francisco he was
14:41quoted in the New York Times expose is
14:43saying they were able to derail the
14:45discussion about sugar for decades so
14:48arm
14:50no no that’s like unbelievable Byron’s
14:52believable because look at the cigarette
14:54industry right from yeah that doctors
14:56coming out and saying how God smoke
14:58these because these are the best and all
15:00that kind of thing so you know nothing’s
15:01shocking any more on what’s shocking is
15:03that it’s still going on
15:05it’s shocking that nobody like you with
15:08this voice is not you know all over the
15:10the news and you know it’s still it’s
15:13still almost like these podcasts have to
15:15bring this information out when
15:17mainstream media just I’ve never seen
15:19this or heard this on any of these
15:21mainstream stations and no longer
15:24no you’re not going to any and all
15:25mainstream media’s is owned by about
15:27five different in a corporate entities
15:29many of which have big stakes in arm you
15:34know in this paradigm I can’t think of a
15:36single multinational interest for egg
15:38for instance that wouldn’t be heavily
15:40invested in every man woman and child on
15:42planet earth being dependent on the
15:44carbohydrate based diet because it’s
15:46easy to produce it’s cheap and held her
15:48shoes excuse the wrench and they’re
15:49consistently leaving more and more of it
15:51well right and and you know it’s it’s
15:54immensely profitable you can’t make a
15:565000 percent profit on a grass fed steak
15:58like you can’t box of cereal
16:00yeah I’m not only that but that type of
16:02diet is basically keeps whoever consumes
16:04it perpetually hungry
16:06very nice for Monsanto know in the video
16:09I’m not so great for the rest of us are
16:12you know I just I wonder you know I was
16:14walking around the other day and I was
16:15looking at people and you know I I’m 54
16:18years old so I have 54 years of looking
16:19at people to judge by what i thought
16:22what would people look like if I could
16:24go back a hundred years and see them
16:26walking around like in my 54 years I’ve
16:28seen people just seem to look sadder
16:30than I remember them when i was in my
16:32teen years or you know they see more
16:35diagnosed on my team having any better
16:37you know I 30 is h 30 is the new 45 your
16:41pocket on setting up disease today and
16:46you know this is it that you know it’s
16:49really a it’s a it’s a cataclysmic
16:52finding I mean this there was that
16:54there’s literally a study showing that
16:55age 32 become the new 45 with respect on
16:58setting disease it’s all new and not
17:00because we suddenly began consuming more
17:02animal-based foods and fats we’ve been
17:04told for decades now to avoid animal for
17:07food and fats and focus on a diet based
17:08in carbohydrates all for the very first
17:11time in human history and what are these
17:13dietary guidelines done for us
17:15well there was a study published in may
17:17have 2015 that took a very close look at
17:19the actual impact of dietary guidelines
17:22on the health of US citizens between the
17:24years of 1965 and 2011 and shockingly
17:27you know the rates of obesity and
17:29numerous metabolic diseases during that
17:31time had increased dramatically but the
17:33waterline about why this was happening
17:35was basically that we are all
17:37sudirman lazy to follow the rules right
17:40you know we just listening to that you
17:41know to the government that in our
17:43guidelines and decrees by medical
17:45authorities whatever we would all be
17:46doing so much better but that’s not what
17:48the study shows even more shockingly for
17:51some not for me so much but it clearly
17:54showed that Americans had been following
17:56the rules and diligently following
17:58government guidelines all along you are
18:00collected and undeniable detriment our
18:02intake of carbohydrates dramatically and
18:05beautifully increased during this time
18:07period while our intake of dietary
18:08animal fat substantially decreased which
18:11of course we’re also replaced in part
18:13naturally by the so-called heart-healthy
18:15in a soybean canola and other trash
18:18vegetable oils and you know they all
18:20right well I like a little story behind
18:22that right there is all there is where
18:24they were they were complicit in this
18:26whole thing too and it was like an
18:27unholy alliance between the sugar
18:29industry and the vegetable oil industry
18:31I mean you know back in that in the
18:32nineteen fifties and sixties you know
18:35margarine companies are advertising in
18:37the american journal of of you know a
18:39medicine so are a journal of american
18:42medical association remembers a kid’s
18:44been getting moved from the commercials
18:46thinking margins the best thing for you
18:47and buttery apple for you know they say
18:49I can’t believe it’s not butter I sure
18:51here but I’m not that I really eat
18:54butter but anyway it’s no wonder why is
18:57it or just just going to talk about so a
18:59little bit look at what what about GMO
19:01genetically modified foods what would
19:03lose our most hit with Dino soy is
19:06probably boy and corner are you know
19:09almost almost entirely you know
19:11genetically modified uh and you know a
19:14lot of crops are becoming genetically
19:16month they’re starting actually now to
19:18genetically modify salmon and you know I
19:20I you know Monsanto has as their stated
19:23goal the complete control of the world’s
19:26food supply and so what why would they
19:28do that why what is it what’s going on
19:30why would anybody who follow the money
19:32it’s it’s complete control its power and
19:36its it’s the unlimited wealth when you
19:39control and you have a they’re basically
19:41they were granted back in you know the
19:44the pop-up Bush administration now
19:47they’re basically granted the right
19:50a to control and patent life
19:53ok so all of the seeds of the world that
19:56are you know that are grown for food and
19:59whatever else they immediately snapped
20:01up and in-plane patents on you know in
20:04and squirrel those away so that they can
20:06kind of control what happens with those
20:08things but but you know when you
20:10genetically you know you’re genetically
20:12modifying a ke dushman or display for
20:16the order what does that mean
20:17genetically modified what does that
20:18actually mean when you take a soybean or
20:20or corn and you genetically modify what
20:23are you doing to it they’re they’re
20:25injecting um they’re basically splicing
20:28genes together that were never meant to
20:29be spliced together the genes of animals
20:32and and plants and and all kinds of
20:35things even insect in order to create
20:38basically a new form of life and in
20:41theory to select for certain
20:42characteristics that make the plant may
20:45be easier to harvest are easier to grow
20:47in certain conditions and that kind of
20:49thing but you’re not talking about the
20:51old methods of like taking a branch of
20:53want to put all this so that it goes
20:55that would actually walking out which
20:57isn’t late are you totally things like
20:59hybrid has a number hybridization has
21:02its issues particularly with respect to
21:04two grains because whenever we hybridize
21:07a plant and this is a very different
21:09thing by the way but when we hybridize
21:11them we’re basically creating roughly
21:14five percent new proteins every time we
21:15do that in the human immune system has
21:18to catch up to that but the problem is
21:20we’re not becoming more adapted to for
21:23instance suppose these post agricultural
21:25foods as time goes on we’re becoming
21:26less adapted as time goes on and you
21:29know for instance the the incidence of
21:30full-blown celiac disease is increased
21:33over four hundred percent in the last 50
21:35years
21:35Aloha not supporting the 22 verifiable
21:38research and not because we suddenly
21:40developed new testing or became more
21:41conscious of it
21:43hey this is based on a study where they
21:44took 10,000 blood samples from 50 years
21:46ago compared to 10,000 blood samples for
21:48today and that’s it and using the exact
21:51same testing methods and found that
21:53there has in those blood samples from 50
21:55years ago were from in a well-preserved
21:57military you know of you know as samples
22:01yes so it’s not going back to my
22:03question of the week
22:04what would if i would put in a time
22:06machine and went back a hundred and
22:08fifty years and i’m walking down the
22:09street
22:10what would people look like compared to
22:13today which looks quite a bit different
22:15I mean it that far that long ago people
22:18were still using more animal fat to cook
22:20with you know um and that kind of thing
22:23we weren’t a weren’t refined includes we
22:26weren’t fat phobic uh and there weren’t
22:30as many processed foods around so things
22:33would have been better than then they
22:35are today certainly uh but you know the
22:39thing to understand is that really this
22:40the slippery slope started the day we we
22:43adopted agriculture is a primary source
22:46of food and as are being a primary
22:48basically based basis for for
22:51nourishment and it’s sort of interesting
22:53to point out that in the last 10,000
22:55years since we did that since we went
22:57from a diet that was basically ninety
22:59percent based in in meeting and
23:01especially the fat of animals in terms
23:03of our caloric intake to maybe you know
23:06ten fifteen percent or whatever now
23:08today um it by comparison
23:10we’ve actually lost over ten percent of
23:12our brain volume in the process wow you
23:15know so evolution may not be heading in
23:17the direction we’d hoped might not be
23:19going in the right direction
23:20well because evidence of course by you
23:23know reality TV and whatever haha and
23:26then our political climate it’s you know
23:28it we’re not getting we’re not getting
23:30smarter folks you know my dad told me
23:32remember as a kid he says that people
23:34are going to involve have just one big
23:36finger to push buttons on the TV was 15
23:39minutes pretty girls bring all you need
23:41are you know maybe two synapses holding
23:42hands in order to do that we provide
23:44direction things are going well what if
23:47it’s a little scary you know I mean for
23:49somebody listening to this I mean I’m
23:51sure we can go on and on about some of
23:53the things i do one thing that does
23:55strike me out just how do you want to
23:57touch on one more thing just to scare
23:58the heck out of everybody little bit but
24:00you talk about in your book vaccine
24:02being added to a process or product can
24:06you talk about what hexane is and you
24:07also said that it it’s in baby food and
24:10it’s in a solvent you know and if used
24:13to extract a certain nutrients from food
24:15and things like that in an end
24:17as a residue of the toxic solvents you
24:20know if it’s it’s no it’s not it’s not
24:23nourishment folks uh and so a lot of
24:26seed oils and things like that are
24:28extracted in that in that manner
24:31uh and and the residues end up in foods
24:34and you know of course what are we doing
24:36with with baby foods among so many other
24:38things you know we’re starting those
24:41babies out with what I i gotta tell you
24:43first that that we’re literally born to
24:47function in a safe he tells us babies
24:48are born in a functional state of
24:50ketosis they don’t start craving carbs
24:52until we start feeding it to them really
24:54right and so look we have a brain that’s
24:58maybe 25 percent of our total body
25:01weight right maybe a little less if you
25:02happen to be a politician or something
25:03crops particularly with but that’s
25:06trained takes up twenty to twenty-five
25:08percent of all your energy demands that
25:10makes our brains really metabolically
25:11expensive but get this baby’s take
25:14eighty eighty-five percent their brains
25:16take eighty-five percent of their
25:18metabolic demands young children
25:20forty-five fifty percent so in contrast
25:23this would say are our closest primate
25:25relatives you know their brains may be
25:28occupied maybe eight percent of their
25:30metabolic requirements so everything
25:32going to remain silent
25:34I look at some of the formulas that are
25:36actually read the and it was 90% maybe
25:39I’m misquoting but i remember reading
25:41somewhere is almost ninety percent
25:43carbohydrates or sugars is that little
25:46yes and so this is you know let’s get
25:49conspiracy theorists for a moment here
25:51you know you look what the food
25:53companies are actually doing are
25:54cultivating this in in babies they’re
25:57they’re saying feet and mashed bananas
25:59or whatever you know they’re a Malay
26:00scenes aren’t even really online yet you
26:02know and but they’re feeding a mashed
26:04bananas and all these kinds of things
26:06and mashed banana I got you know a lot
26:08of people think that’s healthy for you
26:10right
26:11it’s a lot of work but the fruit of
26:13today the fruit that you see in the the
26:15cultivated for you seen the grocery
26:16stores is so different
26:18the most part from the kind of stuff
26:20that would have been available to our
26:22primitive hunter-gatherer ancestors and
26:24think about a wild fruit it tends to be
26:26smaller less sweet more
26:28well it doesn’t seem to be less sweet
26:30sometimes it
26:31be very sweet but it’s much more fibrous
26:32oftentimes tart and in seasonally
26:36available you know not 24-7 you know
26:39stranded 65 days a year and today fruit
26:44is not cultivated for its nutritional
26:46content is cultivated for its size and
26:48its sweetness and by the way fructose
26:51which is the primary in a sugar found in
26:53fruit is actually a sugar that be that
26:56is designed that that when we consume it
26:59now this would have been a confirmed an
27:01evolutionary advantage to people living
27:03in a harsh and unpredictable environment
27:04especially in the late summer when fruit
27:07ripens right we have this case for this
27:09stuff because it’s with switching us
27:11called fruit the kinase it’s an enzyme
27:14that triggers your brain to start it’s a
27:16signal to your brain that says start
27:18storing fat and starts throwing it now
27:20that allows us to cloud our ancestors to
27:23go into a mild state of insulin
27:24resistance prior to winter so they could
27:26put on insulation and padding and have a
27:28little extra you know energy supply
27:31storage great many times right right you
27:34know obviously today I don’t care if
27:36you’re living in minnesota in February
27:37when it’s 40 below outside wintering
27:39coming for us anymore you know we’re
27:41living in the 72 degree in a comfortable
27:44environment sitting on the couch
27:45watching Netflix I learned ordering
27:48pizzas you know and and yet we’re still
27:51we still have a taste for these foods
27:53that with the same switching us and you
27:55know it’s it’s another reason why
27:57obesity is such a rampant rampant
27:59problem nor let me tell you know we
28:02actually end as we wind down here a
28:04little bit i always ask the question
28:05what is the holy grail of help so i’m
28:07going to close that to you like if i
28:09were to say to ignore what would you
28:11consider for our audience the the holy
28:13grail of health and how could they
28:14achieve it
28:15I a diet basically based in a diet based
28:20in what is absolutely most
28:22evolutionarily natural and genetically
28:25compatible with us and that is a diet
28:27basically that that minimizes sugar and
28:31starch it’s not required and and it
28:33triggers insulin and it does all kinds
28:35of bad things and it causes us to age
28:37prematurely and everything else so it’s
28:38a no brainer leave it out right to the
28:40extent possible sure you can eat as many
28:42fibrous vegetables and greens as he
28:44wants to
28:44that has a very low glycemic impact and
28:46I think those who are actually more
28:48important to us now than they used to be
28:49for a variety of reasons you know to
28:51help detoxify toe nutrients antioxidants
28:53give an example of a couple of spinach
28:56letters mentor yeah spinach lettuce
28:58broccoli asparagus uh you know Brussels
29:01sprouts and you know cabbages of rasika
29:03vegetables and things like that a whole
29:05variety of green things that that don’t
29:08turn to sugar when we consume them like
29:10potatoes and andrew other you know root
29:12vegetables raw carrots are kind of okay
29:15in this you know in certain amount
29:16although I wouldn’t be juicing them
29:17butBut I you know we but when you cook
29:21them they become it becomes the sugar
29:23bomb right
29:24wow I’m gonna raise your blood sugar
29:25faster with a baked potato than you can
29:27with a candy bar
29:28wow we need to minimize that then you
29:31moderate your protein intake it must
29:33sound to a lot of people listening to
29:35this like I’m talking about eating a lot
29:36of meat I’m not we don’t need more than
29:38six or seven ounces a day and part of
29:40what I do in in evaluating all of this
29:43is i also look at human longevity
29:44research to figure out how we can
29:46combine these fundamental principles
29:48which I think are an essential starting
29:49place with what actually with science
29:51actually tells us is going to help us
29:53live longer and healthier and anything
29:56that minimizes insulin number one is
29:58going to you’re going to live longer and
30:00healthier by far but also we need to
30:03keep protein to just what we need we
30:05need complete protein from animal
30:07sources foods that triggers a in that we
30:10don’t have time to talk about why but we
30:11do and I talked about in my books plenty
30:14but let me we don’t need we don’t need
30:17more than just to meet those
30:18requirements if we exceed those
30:19requirements we have the you know you
30:21can also trigger aging make yourself
30:23more susceptible to cancer it’s not good
30:25to moderate your protein intake and let
30:27that make up the rest of the calories
30:29from and quality food quality have to be
30:32the foundational basis of your food
30:34choices get your meat only from animals
30:37said exclusively upon grass grass upon
30:40what was natural for them to forage upon
30:43in the wild for instance and your you
30:46can get you’re going to get fat and all
30:48these fat soluble nutrients it’s not
30:50just about macro injuries about all
30:51these other nutrients in a balanced form
30:54that you think it takes the guesswork
30:55out of it and so
30:57is that that’s been about immigration
30:58formalities eat you know so
31:02seafood is sort of the darling of the
31:03health industry and and you know 10 15
31:06years ago i would have been yeah that’s
31:08that step and it’s awesome
31:10it can be awesome i offer a couple of
31:12sources for seafood that I think are
31:14great in my book but there aren’t that
31:16many of our oceans are dangerously
31:18contaminated in ways that are not being
31:20talked about in the media and shall i
31:24call you can almost smell like Fukushima
31:25still the reaction we’re going to know
31:28the the reactors that that melted down
31:32three to three reactors just melted down
31:35there still melting about that goes on
31:36forever
31:37they’re dumping 2,000 tons of highly
31:39radioactive waste into the Pacific
31:41everything has been since 2011 these
31:43radioactive plume have now reached the
31:44west coast there there is ample evidence
31:47and I you know and I’ve uncovered that
31:49that that this is reached now the
31:51seafood supply and we don’t know what is
31:54contaminated what isn’t because the FDA
31:56and the government have refused to test
31:59anything
32:00and by the way that the reactors that
32:02melted down were designed by General
32:04Electric General Electric owns NBC you
32:06know I mean you know and wanting all the
32:09reactors in this country pretty much the
32:10same
32:11well right and there you got one of the
32:13Bayou in New York that’s pretty rare
32:15anymore i recall to the ones that that
32:17had not such a happy ending in japan so
32:19you know we have to realize that there
32:22are vested interests in kind of killing
32:25these stories after while burying them
32:27under and and a lot of people like the
32:29most people it seems in the street think
32:30all the stuff just you know that’s old
32:32news isn’t it
32:33no no going to sell going on so it
32:37really and it’s the other thing to
32:38realize is that for instance in Japan
32:40where they are understandably a little
32:42bit touchy about of about radioactivity
32:45they have actually much stricter laws
32:47and we do about what is allowed in terms
32:50of radio Radio nucleotides in and
32:52whatever in in their foods and they
32:54don’t allow more than like 20 tackles
32:56per kilogram or something like that so
32:58it when the fishermen are fishing off
33:00the coast of Fukushima and a real these
33:02fish in and they’re glowing in the dark
33:05what they can’t sell to their own people
33:07they sell to us because we don’t have
33:08those same limits
33:10on what’s allowed there and one of the
33:13State Department in the inner lasted
33:15administration you know just agreed that
33:17they were not going to limit the
33:18importation of food and goods or
33:20whatever that might be contaminated
33:22because you see that be to economically
33:24inconvenient
33:25so this stuff get ends up in you know in
33:28in the in the fish counters and whatever
33:30else I’m very nervous about seafood i
33:33love it i’m more a little more
33:35comfortable eating if I traveled to the
33:38southern hemisphere and something fresh
33:39caught off the coast of Tasmania or
33:41something like that
33:42Wow but not i don’t know why i have to
33:45tell you I’m i’m really excited that
33:48that we were doing the show because i’m
33:50learning so much just with amazing
33:53guests like yourself and it’s just like
33:55it’s just we get a it gets crazier and
33:57crazier as we do things I’ve done with
33:59it makes me sound you know nuts are
34:01extreme or something but I mean no I you
34:04don’t actually the truth as I’m my own
34:06research and you don’t sound extreme at
34:08all unfortunately right you can’t
34:09realize that the conditions that we know
34:11that we’re living under him in the
34:13marketplace and what it is we’re forced
34:15to accept this quote-unquote food and
34:17down
34:18yeah so one or 11 people want to get in
34:20touch with you find out more about how
34:22would they do that
34:23well I would directly you’re exempt from
34:26my most current book which you know is
34:28doing extremely well you know right now
34:30you can go to primal fat burner com
34:33I i also have a new educational program
34:36that’s a weekly educational program if
34:39your nutritional therapist you can get
34:40CEU credits actually and it’s it’s
34:43called primal power 52 because for 52
34:46weeks of the year each week of the year
34:48you’re getting that really really good
34:50at a nutritional education in ways that
34:52you’re not probably going to get
34:53anywhere else i also have my other
34:55website primal body hyson primal mine
34:58dot-com and where I have an experienced
35:00fairly extensive blog and a lot of other
35:03information and and some free podcasts
35:05and videos and things like that that you
35:06can peruse so there you are i want to
35:09thank you so much for being on the show
35:10it was incredible that someone would
35:14love to have you back
35:14thank you I’d love to be back thank you
35:16so much you’ve been great
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